Yan Bibiyan

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  My JC coming up tomorrow for causing division Rom 16:17,18 - wish me well!

  by Healthworker in

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  hi, brothers and friends!.

  would make me happy if you say a prayer or wish me good luck!.

  been an exciting day, training with you guys before the rumble in the jungle tomorrow!.

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  Yan Bibiyan

  Have to admit though. I am violating the alcohol ban tonight, for the first time in a long time!

  You have no choice, I've heard. Doesn't a bottle of vodka cost like 1000 NOK or so in Norway?

  Great outcome of the JC, BTW. You've dodget a bullet.
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  What's so Special About FREE Home Bible Studies?

  by Ethos in

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  2. beliefs

  continuation of this thread: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/242543/2/free-home-bible-study.

  newyorker: the familiar observation that the bible is the best-selling book of all time obscures a more startling fact: the bible is the best-selling book of the year, every year.

  calculating how many bibles are sold in the united states is a virtually impossible task, but a conservative estimate is that in 2005 americans purchased some twenty-five million biblestwice as many as the most recent harry potter book.

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  From the 2012 Yearbook, Pg. 55:

  Total Hours Spent in Field: 1,707,094,710

  Total Number Baptized: 263,131

  Average Hours for a Single Baptism: 6,488

  Get it? Almost 6,500 hours of preaching spent to convert a single seat warmer at a KH.

  WOW! What is really so special about FREE home bible studies......
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  non believers what if your wrong ?

  by unstopableravens in

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  2. beliefs

  i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

  it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

  i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

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  Don't be so concerned with an atheist being wrong. They believe that WE are wrong.

  Bzzzzz.

  No.

  It is not our belief that you are wrong. We just don't see enough evidence that you are right. Please note and understand the distinction.

  In an everyday analogy, when a defendant is pronounced "Not Guilty" it does not mean that he is innocent. It just means that there is not enough evidence of his guilt.

  As someone who makes the claim/case for god, you just have not provided any evidence to support your claim. That's it. You are not wrong. Your claim just remains unsupported and atheists use a pragmatic approach not to put any weight to it. As well as the case for Allah, as well as the case for Vishnu, as well as the case for Santa Claus, etc....
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  FREE Home Bible Study?!?!?

  by Christ Alone in

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  so i finally took a deep breath and watched the annual meeting report.

  i found a little nugget before the "new light" discussion began.

  there was a report about the "public preaching" that was taking place in manhattan.

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  I thought by now we already knew that "there is no free lunch" (be it a cheeseburger or a "rich spiritual buffet")...
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  non believers what if your wrong ?

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

  it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

  i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

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  NC, what if their Hells are worse than YHWH's Hell?

  Jeez, I don't wat to be dyeing a death of a 1000 cuts forever...
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  non believers what if your wrong ?

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

  it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

  i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

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  onthewayout like what?

  May I, OTWO?

  unstopableravens, things like: genocide, infanticide, murder, rape, incest, endorsement of slavery...to name a few.

  It's all in the scriptures...
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  non believers what if your wrong ?

  by unstopableravens in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i do not wish to debate anything here like i have said in the past i have much respect for most on this forum (believers and non believers) i am simply wondering if the atheist or non god believers every worry about what if your wrong?

  it seems that many who were jw for so many years attach jehovah/yahweh with the watchtower and since the wt is wrong than god does not exist.

  i ask this question only because i care about people and salvation thats why i want to help as many as possable come out of this cult,and since i truly believe in god i dont know what is in the cinscience of those who dont.

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  "They (religions) can't all be right, but they can all be wrong".
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  WT Elders school: The WTS has progressed from just plain stupid to dangerously stupid

  by sir82 in

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  fresh off the recent 1-day elders school.

  to keep things readable i'll post "highlights" over the next several days in different topics.

  point 1: they have progressed from "just plain" stupid to dangerously stupid.. .

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  Oh please. The instructions to the elders is not some top secret, classified, no-one must know information

  Ya, walk up to an elder, ANY ELDER, and ask them to see their book just for a minute...

  Then come back and tell us what happened...

  EDIT: CA beat me to it.
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  The Introduction of Sin (concept)?

  by Yan Bibiyan in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  can you, awsome peoples, please help me with grasping when and how did sin get introduced in the picture?.

  i am not talking adam/eve and the serpent thingy.. i am going way back, following the chain of events.. seems to me that the very original sin was satan's rebellion against god.. if so, how did satan get this idea in a first place, how was he even able to have the concept of disobedience.... .

  thanks in advance to all contributors..

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  That is, God basically said, "OK, to get rid of Satan, i'm just going to kill off everybody, including the faithful angels and Jesus Christ! How's that? But after everybody is dead, I'll resurrect my favorites and give them eternal life. Is that okay?" The faithful angels and Jesus Christ said, "Sure!" That way, Jehovah doesn't have to argue any moral points in regards to SIN. SIN is thus sometime that is subjective, that Jehovah decides to apply or not to apply. So this is a slap in the face of Satan.

  ...and he couldn't just kill Satan because?

  Hey, if the faithful angels and JC were ok with being killed, what abot the rest of us, huh? I never, EVER said OK, kill me.

  "a slap in the face of Satan" WTF?! A slap in the face of humanity moreso....Why is god more concerned anout Satan's feelings?

  Dude, this is some messed up reasoning....
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  It is OFFICIAL they want MORE MONEY : NEW ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just came back from the meeting .although the local announcements have been abolished recently as an item for the second part , an elder came on the platform to announce that the society needs more money and there is a letter on the noticeboard for all the congragation to read to this effect.

  although the announcement was read half heartedly (this elder's daughter is an apostate ,it looks like he knows what's going on) the implictions are dramatic .

  the society in brief,requests any brother or sister with funds sitting on personal accounts to loan them to the society ,he didn't go into any specifics but i will take a picture of the letter next time and make it available here .. i'm not amazed that they're asking for money ,i thought it will happen sooner or later .what i'm amazed is that 99% of the congragation are oblivious to the financial crisis that the society finds itself these days and the reasons why .i can see the future now .the watchtower will be the fist part of the babylon the great to go down in a blaze of scandals and financial troubles !.

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  a watcher, that's the muslims, bro....you may be on the wrong side of the fence